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Mohammad Reza Baqeri (c), deputy foreign minister for Arab and African States, talks to Iran DailyÕs Sadeq Dehqan (l) and Al-VefaqÕs Mokhtar Parto, in Tehran on Saturday. (Photo by Abolfazl Nesaei)
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The second and last installment of Iran Daily’s exclusive interview with Mohammad Reza Baqeri, deputy foreign minister for Arab and African affairs, is also focused on the ramifications of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s recent visit to the Persian Gulf littoral states of Oman and the United Arab Emirates during May 13-14. Excerpts follow:
Do you think that the media propaganda during this trip affected negotiations?
We should have closer relations with the UAE because enemies do not want us to have good relations. They want to exploit the distance between the two countries. This is the old divide and rule policy. I’d like to point out that a great deal of effort was made to aggravate misunderstandings between Iran and UAE. Even after the trip, they said President Ahmadinejad has made promises to the Emirati officials, but it’s not true.
D
ick Cheney, the American vice president, earlier visited UAE. Did it influence Ahmadinejad’s decision to visit this neighboring country?
Dick Cheney’s visit had no effect. We discussed America’s presence in the region for plundering Iraq’s oil resources and humiliating the Iraqis. The UAE also stressed on the necessity of ending the US occupation of Iraq. It was interesting for them to see Iran inviting Shiites, Sunnis, Kurds and Arabs to unite. We also discussed regional security issues and agreed that if the region’s security is ensured by its own peoples, it will be sustainable.
Did you discuss regional security issues in the Emirates? I mean what was your offer to them? Are UAE and Oman ready to sign security agreements with Iran?
We believe that we can sign security agreements with the Persian Gulf Cooperation Council; therefore we invited its six member-states to sign a security agreement. We even went further and said that we are ready to sign joint defense agreements, which means Iran is ready to stand beside them if they’re attacked. They welcomed our proposal and we hope to see them discussing the issue in their meeting. They said they are ready for free trade with Iran in return.
Iran announced its readiness to revive ties with Egypt. Does it have any preconditions?
Both Egyptians and Iranians like each other and one can actually see this. During our trip to Egypt on the nuclear issue, we saw that both the Egyptian officials and people like Iranians and Iran is considered a model by them. We also view Egypt as a great country with an ancient civilization. We have had some problems in the past and it’s now time to solve them.
However, there are some elements that prevent the two countries from reviving their ties. In any case, the two countries are interested in reviving their ties and they will do that.
When President Ahmadinejad was asked about relations with Egypt, he said that we’re ready. He explained that if Egyptians announce their readiness, we will reopen our embassy in Cairo immediately. Both countries have interest sections but not political relations. They enjoy trade relations and Iranian commodities are exported to Egypt. We have even discussed the production of Iranian car Samand in Cairo.
Iranian cultural officials visit Egypt regularly and their cultural officials also reciprocate. If Egyptians announce their readiness, we will have no problem in reviving these ties.
What is Egypt’s view and the basic reason for differences between the two Muslim states?
They will have representatives for talks like us. We will hold negotiations to come to a joint conclusion. The main reason for the distance between the two countries is a third element.
Could you expand on the third element?
Americans create obstacles. For reviving ties, the two countries should have a strong political will.
How determined are the governments of Iran and Egypt for solving their problems?
The Egyptian people are interested in Iran and their officials are also keen on reviving relations. As for Iran, when the president makes such positive remarks, it shows that we are also interested.
Was there any determination in previous governments for reviving ties with Egypt? If so, why didn’t it materialize?
The previous governments were also interested in ties with Egypt, but as I said the third element prevented that.
Is Iran ready to overlook certain issues for reviving ties with Egypt?
We can stick to our principles and also have ties with others. That’s why I say once again that we do not want to cut ties with other countries. Some might say why don’t you then revive your relations with the US? Our officials, including President Ahmadinejad, have stressed it several times that if the US stops its conspiracies and interferences we see no obstacles to reviving relations. We do not have any problem with the American people and our cultural personalities can visit the US. Our problems are political because they still want to interfere in the internal issues of other countries and behave like a guardian.
Iran recently agreed to hold talks with Americans on Iraq. Will these talks be effective while the leader of Islamic Revolution said in a recent speech that Iraq does not concern the US?
Americans should realize that they are not the guardians of Iraqis and that they are not speaking on behalf of Iraqis. The Americans are occupiers and responsible for the killings, explosions and unrest in that country. We are not ready to discuss the interests of the occupying country. If anyone, including the US, says that it’s ready to talk for the betterment of Iraq and that Iran can help as a strong neighbor, we are ready to negotiate from this standpoint. But if Americans consider themselves guardians of Iraq and if they want to solve their own problems through talks, that is not acceptable to us.